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Post by patdaddy4 on Jul 5, 2017 13:12:57 GMT
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Post by Amy on Jul 5, 2017 13:32:40 GMT
Man I hope they smoke corporate!!
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Post by cheryl on Jul 5, 2017 14:08:31 GMT
Hopefully they have the snap document which instructs franchisees not to give members more than a 30 day notice that they'll be charging their "enhancement" fee. I'm sure snap corp is shocked that someone would take issue with being charge an additional fee. After all they do it to franchisees all the time.
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Post by firecrackergirl on Jul 5, 2017 14:39:07 GMT
Lmao, so what if nobody else joins the class action? You think his 99 cent attorney is going to want to take a case for 35 bucks
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Post by determined1 on Jul 7, 2017 2:32:39 GMT
I'm guessing corporate's response will be to claim that the fault lies with the franchisee because they didn't follow corporate's instructions. However, following corporate's instructions about simply moving forward with a new charge and giving members a minimal warning of the charge (I believe it was 2 weeks) are the EXACT reasons that this should fall solely on corporate's shoulders and none of the franchisees. The Ohio franchisee should be providing that document to the plaintiffs' lawyers. I'll call them up to make sure they receive the documents dictating corporate's directions. I have to go look for it. We didn't opt-in to this. We felt it was dishonest. Anyone have those directions they can post?
I'm guessing the lawyers are overestimating damages. Here's what I think they're probably estimating
2000 clubs - Each with an average of 1,000 members means 2 million members
2 million members each being charged $35 = $70 million
In reality I think it's
900 clubs - Each with an average of 300 memberships (not members) means 270,000 memberships
450 clubs charging the $35 fee would be 135,000 memberships
135K memberships being charged $35 = $4.7M
One thing I'd really like to see is an audit of snap's books come out of this.
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Post by determined1 on Jul 7, 2017 3:15:17 GMT
Here's part of the verbiage I found in the email sent out
As a reminder, a formal notice will be sent via email on behalf of your club Feb 21, 22, or 23 notifying members who are opted into this fee for April 2017. Below is what will automatically be sent from your club’s email address, you do not need to perform any additional actions for this to occur.
Subject Line: Notice: Club Enhancement Fee to be billed in April
Hello,
This notification is to remind you that you will be billed the Snap Fitness Club Enhancement Fee this April. The fee amount is stated below and goes toward club improvements. If you have questions, please contact your club.
One-time annual fee amount: $[club location fee]
This would give members 5, 6 or 7 days to cancel their membership if they didn't want to be charged this fee, assuming the club has a 30 day cancelation policy.
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Post by snaplongtimer on Jul 7, 2017 15:47:55 GMT
According to my email communications corp told us that we could opt in or out by mid-March before the annual billing in April. They also state we have had a few months to decide this and communicated this to us in writing. Any possible procrastination and ineffective communication to our members of our plan to charge this extra fee, I am sure, would be thrown back on us by corp. The whole thing makes me sick. This idiot could try and get his fucking $35 back, but who has time to start a class action suit. Is he that fucking mad? Maybe he and the Canadian terrorist who won $8 million should get a room.
Ohio state law requires that (2) detachable cancellation notices as part of the contract the consumer would receive. How can Ohio snap owners operate with outdated contractual requirements that we gym owners cannot accommodate? We cannot edit the iPad. Are there detachable forms on the iPad contract?
Anyway, maybe we should be careful what we wish for. Put a hole in the mother ship and they may be expecting us to patch it.
Ever look at previous class actions? There was one against Planet Fitness. The complaint against them was members signing a contract that unlawfully prohibits gym members from holding the gym liable...hmmm just like any gym contract would state. All you need to do is find an idiot that has the time and vindictive nature to file something similar against us.
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Post by determined1 on Jul 7, 2017 20:02:20 GMT
Personally I'm all for the class action. If a company like snap feels like they can charge extra fees and then only refund the people that complain about it they'll just do it over and over and over ad infinitum. That's why they state in the franchise agreement that you can't file a class action against them. This allows them to do exactly what they're currently doing. Providing an awful product to franchisees and raping them financially over and over and over...
We felt the whole idea and process of doing it should be illegal and we opted out. For hq it's simply their modus operandus. I hope they bankrupt the entire corporate hq and put all of those assholes on the street. Maybe at that point we can break away from these communist idiots.
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Post by snaplongtimer on Jul 13, 2017 14:16:04 GMT
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Post by firecrackergirl on Jul 13, 2017 14:35:43 GMT
Wow. And how easy it is to throw your employee under the bus saying oh they are on 1099, not our probs. |
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Post by snaplongtimer on Jul 13, 2017 18:23:01 GMT
...and his urine went black as leather? Last time I checked black is black. What the hell does leather have to do with it. If I were leather, I'd be pissed right now.
This guy almost lost his life and only suing for $200K? Maybe he should have taken a lesson from the terrorist that just made $8 million and still has his health.
I think it said the trainer had no insurance. Time to punt..
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Post by firecrackergirl on Jul 14, 2017 0:26:16 GMT
Right! Of course dailymail isn't known for being the best of news sources.
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Post by cheryl on Jul 14, 2017 10:27:14 GMT
All of our trainers are 1099. They all work as trainers and instructors at multiple clubs in the area. Of course they're all certified and carry their own insurance. There's not enough info in the article to reach any sort of conclusion. We have a club in our area which has trainers that aren't certified and has their clients doing all sorts of odd exercises, some typically found in spartan types of races. That may be fine for some who are gradually conditioned, but not beginners. But like I said, not enough info in this article.
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Post by determined1 on Jul 14, 2017 20:14:26 GMT
Ours are 1099s as well and also nationally certified and insured.
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Post by patdaddy4 on Jul 23, 2017 11:43:26 GMT
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