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Post by determined1 on Apr 13, 2017 23:50:32 GMT
Pulled out of the convention propaganda:
For the first time, you’ll be organized in rooms of owners and staff from similar markets (ie. rural, suburban, metro, multi-club, international) and have personalized information that covers topics of sales and marketing, personal training, community culture, and new technology.
Funny, we've been telling snap for years that it's not a one-size fits all model and that certain programs, like shitpass, do nothing but cause harm to certain markets. For that specific reason, as well as many others, they need to be opt-in. Of course their response was STFU and do as we say. So I guess now they're saying they didn't have a fucking clue what they were doing in certain markets. Oh, but they've been studying and now they're experts. Guess what? Those of us in those different markets have forgotten more than they'll ever learn.
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Post by determined1 on Apr 14, 2017 0:29:02 GMT
Oh, and ...
We are going to be bringing the Owner’s Meeting to Convention! The Owner’s Meeting is a Q&A event hosted by Peter Taunton and his Corporate Executive team. This is your chance to discuss the questions you want answered.
Let me guess. These are going to be pre-screened questions and they'll remove any of the REAL concerns which owners have.
APPROVED SAMPLE QUESTION: Fitware has been working so great for us, is there any way we can extend this to $8.95 for 3 months? As owners we really don't need to make money
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Post by firecrackergirl on Apr 14, 2017 4:14:44 GMT
Ha! Determined1... Yep I could see that being a question.
I brought up at roadshow today--- we have had hundreds (??) if not more clubs closed in the US. I don't know the exact number but WHY IS THIS NOT BEING TALKED ABOUT. Everything is feel good, add value, modernize but how do we HELP these failing clubs and restructure...
We got a preview of convention at roadshow ... someone commented that we get charged every month for convention expenses now? is this so?
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Post by cheryl on Apr 21, 2017 19:50:30 GMT
Agreed - Different promotions work differently for different clubs. A club which is struggling should be doing whatever they can to get members in the door to at least give their club a try. Clubs which are successful and are getting new members in via word of mouth and able to charge a premium for a monthly pass shouldn't be forced to give up those profits to let people use their club for free (Of course they're paying the snap mafia $8.95)
I really don't think the snap mafia cares one way or the other though. From their position they can sell your valuable product at a huge discount, give you nothing and they've put nothing at risk. Even better for them they advertise on the page you're paying them for, so they don't have to pay for advertising.
Now, circling back if you're struggling then this program may be great for you. Of course you could just run it yourself and collect the $8.95 up front. If you wind up turning around your club and get friends telling friends then you'd want to stop the program because at that point the program forces you to leave money on the table.
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Post by greenergrass on Apr 22, 2017 13:56:06 GMT
I brought up at roadshow today--- we have had hundreds (??) if not more clubs closed in the US. I don't know the exact number but WHY IS THIS NOT BEING TALKED ABOUT. Everything is feel good, add value, modernize but how do we HELP these failing clubs and restructure... Corporate is looking for a new generation of owners to take over clubs. Owners with new money to lose. Owners who will spend that new money to modernize. They don't care about the owners who have spent $200-400K already and are trying to recoup their investment. They have basically swindled us! These owners need to either spend more money or the alternatives are 1) SELL - we know how tough that is in this very competitive market. Show me a club within 4 miles of a Planet that has a new successful owner! Please. How did they turn it around. Don't tell me the owner is a personal trainer. That's not a logical option for me. I didn't have to be a trainer when I opened but now this is what they would recommend. Hmm. Swindled. Bait and switch. What percentage of clubs within 4 miles of Planet or some other cheap gym has survived? 2) CLOSE. This seems to be what happens most often. So does corporate care? If there is a choice between a) keeping this location open with no modernization or b) close, do they choose to have the owner close? I believe they will go with b even if the location is well liked and well reviewed, to them it's all about the look. Now, tell me how many other Franchises have stores that look exactly the same. Not every one. Do my members care if I have a wood floor entry way or not? I think they would rather have the location open than closed regardless of the entry way flooring. I should think financial stability is important. And corporate is pushing the limits of this already with their other programs (Shitpass). |
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Post by firecrackergirl on May 1, 2017 18:59:12 GMT
Hhaha, my thoughts exactly greenergrass. Their own words, in fact. "Transition out disengaged owners".
Disengaged meaning---- broke.
The whole idea of if we have a great looking club, we will get sales is a fallacy. My club looks good, is run smoothly, and yet, now I have to share with a competitor. Well multiple. In towns of under 10,000 people when you have 5 gyms within a 5 mile radius it gets tough.
How is a wood floor going to change that??
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Post by determined1 on May 2, 2017 14:15:20 GMT
Step 1 - Collect underpants
Step 2 - ?
Step 3 - Profit
It's all very simple
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Post by yankedchain on May 30, 2017 23:43:47 GMT
Anyone else get their invite in the mail today for the convention? I noticed that the BPS group has doubled. I am feeling the additional support, you?
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