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Post by thatkidfromjersey on Jun 6, 2018 11:18:39 GMT
So it looks like corporate is charging each club $278 per month for fees related to myzone. Corporate claims this is move to help our clubs and our members. But it appears that corporate stands to benefit the most, for when you calculate out the $278 per club per month, they stand to make more than $5,000,000 a year on this deal. Funny how every initiative corporate rolls out to "help us" really just ends up costing us a shipload of money (and making them a lot).
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Post by cheryl on Jun 8, 2018 15:18:31 GMT
I'm confused by what you're calling "fees related to myzone". There should only be 1 monthly fee, which is $150. The $278 may be your first charge for the hardware.
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Post by thatkidfromjersey on Jun 8, 2018 21:20:28 GMT
Yes, but the "hardware" charge goes on for many months (correct?) and is mostly profit for corporate as well. Maybe I should have said "costs related to myzone".
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Post by cheryl on Jun 11, 2018 12:33:36 GMT
No, the hardware charge is either a 1 or 2 month charge. It includes the MyZone Intel stick, belts, devices, etc. I believe there were different start-up packages. Once that's paid for it's $150 per month.
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Post by thatkidfromjersey on Jun 11, 2018 20:14:57 GMT
No, the hardware charge is either a 1 or 2 month charge. It includes the MyZone Intel stick, belts, devices, etc. I believe there were different start-up packages. Once that's paid for it's $150 per month. Whatever. Regardless, it's a scam and a ripoff. Myzone is a fad that will be forgotten about 18 months from now. No long term value to our members, brand, or clubs. Only profit for corporate. Next year I guarantee there will be another "new snap" with a new product they want us to peddle. |
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Post by cheryl on Jun 13, 2018 12:51:44 GMT
It is true that corporate and their BPS team seem to jump on trends/fads (usually at their tail end). I don't know that heart rate technology is a fad. However, it is technology and as such is sure to change and evolve. This means that at some point the devices you have on hand will become obsolete. When this happens we have to hope that MyZone is leading the change and not decimated by it.
If you take a look at clubs opening now the fad seems to be "functional" training as well as cardio theaters and such. What I notice about the clubs that have functional training areas is that they're pure chaos when things get busy. Battle ropes being used which interfere with pathways. Large areas like turf zones, which are big and only used by one person at at time. If you have a dedicated space that's great, but trying to carve out a space and put these sorts of things in is anything but "functional". What I think they like about these areas is that people typically have no clue what they're doing, because it's not a classroom environment. So now you'll want a personal trainer to show you what to do. Problem is most won't pay for that and won't join or leave and go somewhere they know what they're doing.
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Post by davesnap on Jun 13, 2018 17:05:31 GMT
Functional Training area really need to be planned out and they are not easy to incorporate into the Snap small gym model. Like you said Cheryl there will be chaos at times. One option with this type of setup is to hire a part time trainer to give short tips on how to do functional workout correctly on these type of equipment stations during just those busy times. You don't need My Zone and there will not be a franchise fee add-on charged to the club. This would only work for a club that has the room. Functional training is not going away anytime soon and I have members who told me if I had the space to add it they would join for life.
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Post by thatkidfromjersey on Jun 14, 2018 11:59:16 GMT
Heart rate "technology" has been around for decades. What is new is that now finally companies are coming out with creative ways to profit on it.
There is a very small percentage of the gym going population that care to/want to monitor their heart rate while they work out, which is why cardio machines have had built in heart rate monitors since the Reagan administration. Everyone else could care less what their heart rate is, or know how to get a great workout without having electronic devices strapped to their body. Here's what a find particularly hilarious about this whole thing... the "science" behind keeping your HR in any particular zone in order to optimize fat burning, cardio development, or whatever, is half a century or more old, as has been disproven time and time again as an ideal way to train. And while people with their my zones are constantly screwing around trying to keep their heart rate at some "optimal" zone, everything else about their workout is suffering. Really myzone is nothing more than a distraction from learning how to properly work out.
Again, if corporate for some reason was not able to profit on myzone, do you think they would be pushing it on all the clubs like they are doing now? HELL NO!
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Post by cheryl on Jun 14, 2018 13:20:34 GMT
Technology improves all sorts of things with each day that passes. Years ago you'd have to be hooked up to a machine while experts monitored your vitals. Now you can just where a strap and get that data. The comfort level has improved as well. It's no longer a long piece of hard plastic. With the new technology come ways to improve the monitoring. Previously everyone who was 40, 50 or 60 was treated the same as every other 40, 50 or 60 year old. This technology takes into account the conditioning level of the different individuals. I've read articles in different personal training magazines about the benefits of chest strap heart rate monitors. If you're interested I can go look for them and post them. If you have articles taking a contrary position I'd like to read them. I'd rather know about different positions on the science before a member alerts me.
As far as corporate doing it to make money? I agree with you. I think the way they're rolling it out is dumb. You should want to incorporate it into your club. If you don't you're not going to educate your members and it'll go nowhere. You'll be paying $150/month as an additional tax. If I'm a member at a snap with MyZone and come into your non-MyZone club I really don't care. I can pull it up on my phone and monitor that way or I could just watch the heart rate on the cardio equipment. It doesn't really matter to me as a MyZone user.
I'd also like to see numbers from an independent 3rd party showing club activity levels and retention rates pre-MyZone and post-MyZone. You can't simply say that those that use MyZone stay longer. Those people are gym enthusiasts and are more likely to stay longer regardless of whether or not they have a MyZone. For me the critical part is that it has to be a 3rd party. I don't trust anything snap says. I believe they collect data, throw it out the window and then populate tables with the numbers they really want to see and then report them as REAL data.
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